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Post  Medalgod on Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:59 pm

As my post has been deletd, i figured id make all emails to and from him, as well as posts public here :p
for all of my dear clan mates to have a laugh at xD

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Re: Post to masif that got deleted

Post  Medalgod on Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:59 pm

Hi all,
It would appear that masif is an inexperienced admin who shouldn\'t have been left in charge of a tournament.
You can blatently see from the scores hacking took place, e.g:
Strike (1): eMOne 7-6
Strike (3): eMOne 17-5
The same person on the same map, playing the same people \'mystically\' gets 3 times better... What a crock of shit!

I\'ll now make all of the demo\'s public so that far more experienced players than masif teh nubcake can make their own decisions on this matter:

Zerggie\'s Demo: http://rapidshare.com/files/2831 ... -_Zerggie.dm_1.html
Mirror: http://sharebee.com/c707b92d

Snakeyes Demo: http://rapidshare.com/files/283151072/demo0002.dm_1.html
Mirror: http://sharebee.com/d32aa844

Medalgod\'s demo: http://rapidshare.com/files/2831 ... -Medalgod.dm_1.html
Mirror: http://sharebee.com/07edd1cb

Random\'s Demo: http://rapidshare.com/files/283178763/nhnf.dm_1.html
Mirror: http://sharebee.com/1d918db7

Zipco\'s Demo: http://rapidshare.com/files/283187404/ZipVNhnf.rar.html
Mirror: http://sharebee.com/1d918db7

Enjoy watching! Perhaps a less noobish admin such as kire or cocaine can respond and masif can go rot in hell

If you want, you can grab a beer, print out where we put people are hacking, and sit and laugh at Masif\'s noobishness over thinking these situations weren\'t blatant hacks!

It is unfortunate that a bunch of hackers, with no reguard to tournament rules have been allowed to get the the SEMI-FINALS of any tournament.
I ask you for the sake of other clans who will have to face these dirty hackers in the future to remove them from the tournament, if only on grounds of not recording demo\'s to prove their innocence!

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Re: Post to masif that got deleted

Post  Medalgod on Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:00 pm

Masif's email response to zerggie:

The only thing thats noobish is your teams play. Your movement is weak,
you always go the same routes, pick the same spots, dont go behind cover
and most of your guys aiming is poor. Most times your play is to slow
and you never switched your pace in the whole match. Your snipers even
stand in the wide open without cover. It often took them 2+ shots to hit
an open target (often they even didnt hit anything). You are planting
claymores in enemy territory and wonder why you get shot in the first 30
seconds. Most of your mates shoot far to early or miss due to their bad
aim, go into cover and peek out the same way did before and then get
shot. And you wonder how comes others know where you are. Your simply
low thats why you lost. Work on your skills and please dont accuse others.
You dont even know what is like to play against somebody with an aimbot,
wallhack or uav hack. You simply pick some terms and mix them up to make
others think you understand what your talking about.
I been through your complete list and at most points I was only
wondering what the hell you were thinking when you wrote them down.
I think you were simply frustrated thats all. I dont say NhNf are good
players they suck but they were simply a bit better than your team.

Thats my honest opinion and its not meant to insult you or your team.
These are facts and dude I know what Im talking about as I have played
promod ladders & cups in major leagues and regularly scrimed med & high
teams. Go #cod4.wars on Quakenet and ask for a low team. I bet you get
yourself owned at least 17-3.

Im disappointed as I thought you are mature person but your post reveals
your just frustrated and unable to judge your own abilities.

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Re: Post to masif that got deleted

Post  zerggie on Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:17 pm

LOL you are such a fucktard, its zerggie not medalgod (not fucking metalgod) and if you think we are so shit why dont you get your clan to come and play us someday so we can cockslap you in the face =]

Oh btw can we have medalgod's post in the forums for public viewing as it is only the truth and his judgement is correct.

What makes you more of a fucktard is that eMOne sent medalgod a private message saying that he did wallhack and he is now rubbing it in our faces that you can not tell that he has a hack when you have played in cups etc so good luck with the rest of the fucking tournament with hackers around who cant record a demo...when in the rules its stated that they will forfit if recording does not take place...

Feel free to join us on TS to arrange a game and disscuss the matter properly with no flaming involved or you can visit our website http://www.mzclan.co.nr/ and see yourself.

Best regards Zerggie

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Re: Post to masif that got deleted

Post  zerggie on Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:05 pm

Hello

Just wounering after my last e-mail i sent you, your ignoring the fact that he told me he was hacking and that you are just going to ignore me and let them hack for rest of the tournament too. shows how much you care for the tournamanet doesnt it.

I didnt mean to insult you in previous posts or anything but it was a bit harsh calling us all noobs and insulting us to the best of your ability to beat us down and make us feel crap.

We were just showing what we felt when you said that our post was rejected after spending over 3 hours on the report and when we saw that NhNf didnt record any demo's and when stated in the rules they must record demo or they will not take part in the tournament, our main conclusion from the report was that eMOne in the first 2 games had a low/average score but then he almost tripled his score on the 3rd map which we all thought was unlikely. Sorry if we wasted your time and caused any disturbances to the rest of tournament.

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My opinion

Post  WingsOfDomain on Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:17 am

I belived just like Masif's that you wouldn't use sucha words to him. Well it's normal but I didn't excpect it from you. Well what he says about your skills maybe is true but really, doese it matters? You are not playing to conquer the world and you don't play with noob perks and you have fun (right?) so there's nothing to feel down for, IMO. And you actually seem to move at the same spot all the time. However it's better o have a tactic (even if it is the same all the time) then to have nothing. And ofc there's "skills" as a team can improve after a numbers of rounds, their leader maybe have a propaganda speech for them and they get back their moral and focus. (I know my english sucks, tell if there's something you don't understand). And if they realize where you guys alwasy go they'll get a advantage ect. right? But on the other hand their suddenly improvement and that they never explain how they managed to turn the match sounds like CHITERS. In other hands it is possible BUT it's rare and I don't really think the managed to do this whitout cheats.. SRY CHITS ; ). However if I were admin I would have kick NPHFNPFH (or whatever they were called) cause of their hmm "not so nice comments" and because they didn't follow the rules. It feels like the admin have falled for the NPHFNPFH's bullshit. They dosen't have any clear arguments they just say: THIS IS SHIT WE DON'T CHEAT. Like cheaters used to do. I will maybe take a look to your demos too.

Todays wise words: Never take garena serious. and (for me) don't sleep at english lessons.

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Re: Post to masif that got deleted

Post  Medalgod on Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:19 am

WingsOfDomain wrote:I belived just like Masif's that you wouldn't use sucha words to him. Well it's normal but I didn't excpect it from you. Well what he says about your skills maybe is true but really, doese it matters? You are not playing to conquer the world and you don't play with noob perks and you have fun (right?) so there's nothing to feel down for, IMO. And you actually seem to move at the same spot all the time. However it's better o have a tactic (even if it is the same all the time) then to have nothing. And ofc there's "skills" as a team can improve after a numbers of rounds, their leader maybe have a propaganda speech for them and they get back their moral and focus. (I know my english sucks, tell if there's something you don't understand). And if they realize where you guys alwasy go they'll get a advantage ect. right? But on the other hand their suddenly improvement and that they never explain how they managed to turn the match sounds like CHITERS. In other hands it is possible BUT it's rare and I don't really think the managed to do this whitout cheats.. SRY CHITS ; ). However if I were admin I would have kick NPHFNPFH (or whatever they were called) cause of their hmm "not so nice comments" and because they didn't follow the rules. It feels like the admin have falled for the NPHFNPFH's bullshit. They dosen't have any clear arguments they just say: THIS IS SHIT WE DON'T CHEAT. Like cheaters used to do. I will maybe take a look to your demos too.

Todays wise words: Never take garena serious. and (for me) don't sleep at english lessons.

ROFL, don't sleep in english there's an interesting one - i certainly used to xD
As for our positioning - when we're playing a team who are too ill organised to respond to our strategies by changing their own, we stick to the basics and defeat them with basic positions and skill alone - this is precisely what happened with NhNf (except we didnt win)...
When a team responds to our changes in strategies, we change ours - almost like a turn based strategy game where the troops are moved around and scenarious are played out on a round to round basis. You should really be here when we do inter-clan matches (i.e. M&Z vs M&Z), with one (or more) of our guys who are good at commanding and thinking tactically on each side we get amazingly close matches and on no 2 rounds do you get the same tactics - and rarely even the same weapons deployed, as each time the strategy is re-thought to combat the opponents previous positioning and exploit their newer weak spots.

As for if you want to make the personal decision over the NhNf match, my advice is still to watch the demo's - it's pretty obvious they weren't playing fair.

On the final note of taking things seriously - at first we were angry about the admins not following the very rules they layed out (about demo's and such), so we set about writing a mopre formal letter to the admin - but we soon decided it wopuld be much fun to let our anger out in one post (that got me temp banned from garena.. rofl) - so most of the above flaming was written just because myself and zerggie got bored and thought it would be a laugh - and it sure as well was! xD

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Re: Post to masif that got deleted

Post  WingsOfDomain on Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:29 am

Haha ok xD. But why did you get banned?

A question then. Are you "adviced" to use the same weapons? casue I watched your fight with slak and all of oyu used sniper and ak-47 in strike.. nearly everyone. Nad on backlot you all used the same weapon as well. Isn't it good to variate the team? Have one planter (with smg) one sniper to cover the planter and a assualt man i the middle? For example.

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Post  N on Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:44 pm

AASA


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Re: Post to masif that got deleted

Post  WingsOfDomain on Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:03 pm

Yeah ofc. you can't play with a weapon you really don't like. But since you had so similar classes I thought you had reccomend perks/weapons for your members. And the weapon for backlot was M4 (I think I'm still not so sure about the names in assualt weapons) and I think that's a bad weapon for backlot. Backlot requeris a weapon oyu can runa and shoot with "no aim" and I have realized M4 is really bad at that, so it was strange so many used it. In slak the weapons variated very much.

and one more question. Who are you Domagoj? I think I never seen you in any battle. And are you some sort of leader or any special rank? Razz

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Post  Medalgod on Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:04 pm

Damagoj is a clan member, he specialises in SMG's & Assault rifle's Smile
We do not specify what weapon you should use - but at the beginning of a map i may say - im going M4 as we're only playing 4 guys, clip size and fire rate are fine for my position & it is rare i wont be aiming down the sights in my role.
This *may* make a few other people see my way of thinking, but we dont specify any clan weapon etc...
e.g. Snake eyes is deadly with a G3, he'd never put a scope or silencer on it and the speed and consistency at which he can fire it is truly spectacular - we may designate him a role to suit his strong points and allow him to use his preferred weapon(s), but we will neve explicitly say you MUST do this (unless part of a plan relies upon say 3xfrag's in the middle to clear a path etc...)

It is true, however to say that as we watch easchother play alot in spec, we learn the weak points and strong points for different weapons in different game modes, against different sizes of team & play style.

E.g say we played 4v4 against slak on backlot - in normal hardcore my weapon would be an M4, stun, Jugger, Clays & Dead silence. If we had the same match in promod, my weapon would be an AK47, flash, unsilenced.

The only reason we may look to be using the same weapons are simply becasue we've all individually come to the conclusion that they're best for the job xD

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Post  WingsOfDomain on Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:09 pm

haha yeah. Ofc I understand that M4 is good (even for backlot) but it only suits some spots. And I don' think you all go to the same spot. haha you see how I am thinking now?

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Post  Medalgod on Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:17 pm

WingsOfDomain wrote:haha yeah. Ofc I understand that M4 is good (even for backlot) but it only suits some spots. And I don' think you all go to the same spot. haha you see how I am thinking now?

As I say everyone made an independent decision - the reason I would have used an M4 is at both points A & B, the mid-long range accuracy of the M4 is only achieveable otherwise by the burst rifle M16 (and the semi-auto rifles). The long range is good for defending both positions A&B, as well as firing at snipers trying for easy kills in the middle. Being the only long-range fully automatic assault rifle it is the obvious choice, as with a little skill it can be highly effective at close range also - the obvious weapon as I see it.

Ofcoarse an AK47 has similar accuracy at range, but i find it not quite as good due to higher recoil, and if you put a silencer on, it's accuracy at range is drastically reduced.

You'll have to ask other members if you want to know why they used it :p

Edit: I've just read you were talking about backlot, i write this for mp_citystreets either way the reasons are similar Smile, except claymores & the stun etc on my M4 class are all highly effective in backlot.


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Post  WingsOfDomain on Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:20 pm

Well it seems like you don't understand me correctly. It is NOT strange that you use it the strange thing is that SO MANY used it. There's a diffirence.

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Re: Post to masif that got deleted

Post  Medalgod on Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:20 pm

WingsOfDomain wrote:Well it seems like you don't understand me correctly. It is NOT strange that you use it the strange thing is that SO MANY used it. There's a diffirence.

As I say, thet's just my reasoning - great minds must think alike xD

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Post  WingsOfDomain on Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:23 pm

haha no I don't think so. Doese all your teamates thinks about defending A & B? There's only a few spots you can do it from at those spots are easlie taken out with SMG guys. Like me. In the most maps I am a anti sniper / planter.

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